Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

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Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

Postby maoman » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:12

I stumbled across this blog post yesterday, discussing the phenonmenon of Xicanmei (西餐妹), literally "girls who like to eat western meals". This term applies to Taiwanese women who exclusively date white guys the same way "Yellow Fever" applies to men who exclusively date Asian women.

To be honest, I haven't encountered the phenomenon very often, and when I did it was in places like Roxy, Vibe, etc. More upscale meat markets tended to have women with different criteria. What are your personal experiences with Xicanmei? Are there still a lot of them around?

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Re: Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

Postby sandman » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:35

People like to pigeonhole. Makes life easier for them. How about "rice queen" or "potato queen?"
I just wish I was good-looking and charming enough to have the luxury of such choices. It would be SO much better than: "anyone who'll tolerate me for more than 20 minutes."
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Re: Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

Postby TainanCowboy » Fri Dec 07, 2012 14:00

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Re: Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

Postby Beaker » Fri Dec 07, 2012 14:51

sandman wrote:People like to pigeonhole. Makes life easier for them. How about "rice queen" or "potato queen?"
I just wish I was good-looking and charming enough to have the luxury of such choices. It would be SO much better than: "anyone who'll tolerate me for more than 20 minutes."


You're lucky to get 20 minutes. I run most of 'em off in less than 5 minutes flat.
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Re: Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

Postby asiababy » Fri Dec 07, 2012 21:31

Maoman, that's not MC Hotdog... He has another song about this. He performed it at one of the MTV shows they used to have on Saturday afternoons, about 15 years ago. He was throwing a blonde blowup sex doll around in the audience. I remember it really clearly because it landed right by me and the people around me (and I) were not sure how to handle it.
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Re: Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

Postby Lord Lucan » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:05

I think he certainly prefers Taiwanese girls to the Mainland ones anyway...

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Re: Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

Postby channamasala » Wed Jan 30, 2013 17:52

I have only met Taiwanese women with this preference once, the one time I went out to those upscale meat markets with some other foreigners (otherwise, it's shocking how hermetic I can be in the expat community, considering how outgoing I am - I'm female by the way, that may influence my observations in this area). Even then, it was only like 3 girls out clubbing, and I was too drunk (ah the good old days) to really be able to tell if it was a one night "let's play with foreign boys" thing or a "we always date foreign guys" thing. 3 girls is not exactly a sample size, and those are literally the only three I've ever met. And I am pretty active locally - I have enough Taiwanese female friends, and am a woman myself which would probably mean they'd be more likely to talk to me about their predilections as a friend - that if this were really a "thing" beyond maybe just a small minority of women that I would have met more of 'em by now.

The Taiwanese female friends I have who have Western boyfriends (which isn't many - most are single or involved with Taiwanese men) are quite clearly dating that one particular guy because they like/love THAT GUY and don't have an overall preference. Many have said that they originally fought a bit of trepidation before dating these men.

So I'd go with no - the majority of Taiwanese women who date foreign men do so because they want to date that foreign man. I do feel that maybe sometimes their ideas about what makes a good boyfriend are different (and not entirely in a "she's dating THAT LOSER?" way - I know a few who wouldn't give a second glance to foreign guys I think would be ok, because "he has too much body hair" or "I don't like the beard/goatee" or "he's too dark", among other not-appearance-related things. I don't mean to imply that the reasons are only shallow ones, I just picked a few I've heard, and there are others that delve more into personality and culture, too), but that's s topic for a different post, and anyway, individuals will always have their individual preferences. I do think a lot of the women who date foreign guys get unfairly labeled as xicanmei by their friends/acquaintances, and for some (some! not all! before people jump on me) that label sticks because the guy is suffering from a case of yellow fever - so it just seems like she'd also be a xicanmei. But...no. Not necessarily.

And I note that that label can often be unfair because I also have a few Taiwanese male friends. Most of 'em have expressed some level of annoyance at foreign guys who come here and scoop up local women (whether that annoyance is warranted is yet another topic for yet another post), and these aren't dweebs who can't get a date. They're mostly good looking married men, or gay, or otherwise seem to do fine in the dating world. I can see how they'd take out that annoyance on the women, because sexism. Sexism. Ah, sexism. A worldwide problem.
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Re: Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

Postby channamasala » Wed Jan 30, 2013 17:59

Also, not a fan of 西餐妹 generally. If we're going to use it - and I'd prefer not, less labels are better, generally - what about 西餐哥, Taiwanese guys who totally want a foreign girlfriend (whether or not they actually get one is another issue, and the issue isn't that single foreign girls don't like Taiwanese guys)?
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Postby Hannibal » Wed Jan 30, 2013 19:55

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Re: Xicanmei (西餐妹): Taiwanese girls who like white guys

Postby channamasala » Wed Jan 30, 2013 21:07

Yeah, I tend to do that. Ah well.
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